he has been the chief of staff to the vice president gore two administrations, vice president gore and vice president biden and he is trusted by the president. denis i don't know as well. he's respected and experiment in foreign policy and worked with president obama going back to the first campaign where he advised him on foreign policy and he worked for senator daschle. the president has two great choices. either one is prepared to be chief of staff. >> jennifer: like you i know ron kliani more than denis and i think he'll be fabulous. these first appointments are all white males. my feeling is we haven't seen the finality of the appointments yet. >> yes, the president demonstrated in the first administration's its commitment to diversity. the first point was the supreme court. he appointed two women and the first hispanic member of the court. i think you'll see when the president fills his cabinet and staff, it will be america at its best diversity. >> jennifer: there is news that some people say is president obama most controversial cabinet member were the perspective of congress w